n i. ə / sih-KOH-nee-uh) is a genus of birds in the stork family. The blending of the virtual space, mental space, and base space (as well of the resulting confusion) may be key to understanding Ciconia When They Cry. Ciconia When They Cry’s opening movie was made available via 07thExpansion’s official YouTube channel on July 14, after an initial announcement via Twitter on July 11.. Full spoilers ahead, as you'd expect from a thread like this. Umineko No Naku Koro Ni. Seshat is my prime suspect. In Ciconia, Ryuukishi07’s setting dislocates the usual construction of mental spaces by moving them into a virtual space where characters can manifest environments and conceptualizations into a built space where others can acknowledge them, without having to construct these objects into the base space. The strongest point for this is when froggo takes her shields down at the end. Toujiro seems to be pushing Miyao towards breaking gameboard rules and becoming the player, that idea was presented numerous times during phase 1. The blending of the virtual space, mental space, and base space (as well of the resulting confusion) may be key to understanding Ciconia When They Cry.- Because of events when she went after Gray, a traitor and how she erased every trace of her being here or even why meeting was held in the first place. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews 1 in Group Chat. Except jayden, he is confirmed to not have it. How do they distort, reflect, and translate into each other? Following the well-known Higurashi and the slightly less well-known Umineko, Ciconia is a completely new tale, requiring no knowledge of the previous games (although having some will … Ciconia questions the boundaries between virtual space, mental space, and base space. When they tried to catch Blue Miyao program and failed, they wanted to report to "Mistress". That being said, this also means that R07 can be more unreserved and focussed in his writing, because he knows he is appealing to a much smaller audience and there is no need to … Enjoy the answer arcs! Unlike the previous two series, the setting of Ciconia is in the future. What if the spy in Warcat is actually Meow? I’ll also be presenting some theories on which characters may exist only as avatars, and which characters actually exist in the physical space of the story. Reading a When They Cry novel without trying to put together the mystery is like eating cereal without milk. Additionally, the fragments indicate she has some hidden objective. In addition, fossils suggest that Ciconia storks were somewhat more common in the tropical Americas in prehistoric times. It has been stated by Seshat, that if humanity will reach civilization end - "they" will come and reap everything, compared to that ww4 is much more "humane". "They" claims to be representatives of all-seeing all knowing God. He laid so many cards on the table. The numbers we have for the wisdom right now are 19080630, 18721205, and 19940305. The genus was introduced by the French zoologist Mathurin … Ciconia When They Cry - Phase 1: For You, the Replaceable Ones This is the first chapter in newest entry When They Cry visual novel series produced by Ryuukishi07. By the start of the narrative proper, their mental abilities have changed to effectively use the Selcom, lending in part to their high levels of parallel processing power (P3). Where do these spaces blend? I personally think the ending sequence was their "good" personalities partying together in the simulated environment while their "darker" personalities murdered each other in the real world. Ciconia No Naku Koro Ni. This one isn't as much a traditional mystery as Umineko, but the first chapter still leaves us with plenty questions to tackle. machines?). Ciconia: When they Cry (Phase 1) Honestly I have less to say about Ciconia since it's not done yet, so instead I've made a meme. She uses these built spaces to support her position that magic was used to commit the Rokkenjima murders, which is based upon her construction of reality, otherwise called a mental space. So I hope you'll forgive me for this strange compromise. Reading a When They Cry novel without trying to put together the mystery is like eating cereal without milk. Those who master the training get to become Gauntlet Knights, which just so happens to be the position of the group that the story follows. It features HD graphics, more detailed animations, and newly created songs by many of the composers from Umineko, as well as several new additions. And the frogs answer to someone else. © Valve Corporation. Here, the lines between the mental spaces of the characters, the virtual space of the Selcom, and the physical space blend together into something that cannot be parsed apart, leading to this occasional character mistake. Ciconia (/ s ɪ ˈ k oʊ. Oh, another thing that makes me suspicious of Meow is her relationship to Toujiro. If Beatrice convinces Battler of her position, her mental space will manifest on to the base space of Rokkenjima, thereby making her magical solution the “truth” of the events on Rokkenjima. New WHEN THEY CRY 5, will be released in 2019. R07 just used that super casually here. angels? that's why we have been shown that hell factory and brain stuff. Ciconia no Naku Koro ni (Phase 1) Theorycrafting Part 1 – Hierarchy of the Chivalric Orders (SPOILERS!) I see a lot of speculation regarding Meow not being real but I don't really see that as the case. Ciconia When They Cry Phase 2 will arrive on PCs in 2020. We've got so much information already in Phase 1 (The secret organisation of the Three Kings, Vier Dreissig and her researchers, Miyao's dad, Seshat and Jestress having their own schemes etc.) Next time, I’ll be discussing how Ryuukishi07’s purposeful lack of clarification on which scenes take place in the virtual world and the physical world are being mobilized to build suspense in the story. How do they affect each other? hello i am one of the three active fans of ciconia and i enjoyed this post, but this is how i analyze things and i wanna be on the ground floor of ciconia theorycrafting, hope the 3 active fans of ciconia enjoy this post. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Ciconia When They Cry Phase 1 - On Sale October 4th! Full spoilers ahead, as you'd expect from a thread like this. Ciconia, Consultora con más de 17 años convirtiendo los retos ambientales en oportunidades de crecimiento económico, social y medioambiental It follows Gauntlet Knights – young people trained to use a new military technology called the Gauntlet, which allows its user to fly, fight, and repel attacks – who have become friends and aim to prevent the outbreak of a fourth world war. mangagamerstaff : Ciconia When They Cry - Phase 1: “For You, the Replaceable Ones” is now available for pre-order on MangaGamer.com! I am 100% onboard for Ryukishi's epic thesis-paper-disguised-as-a-kickass-sound-novel on international affairs and the generation gap. September 6, 2020 September 6, 2020 limpnah Leave a comment I’m a bit late to the party, but a few weeks ago I read Phase 1 of Ciconia When They Cry, the newest visual novel (or sound novel?) Ciconia no Naku Koro ni (Ciconia: When They Cry), also called When They Cry 5, is the third official installment in the When They Cry franchise by 07th Expansion note . I’ll be keeping this opening post updated with all the information we know so far. However, just as Beatrice presents herself as a witch in the Meta World to hide her true identity, characters in Ciconia also use the built virtual space to hide the truth of the base space. Miyo spent her early childhood living a fairly normal and happy life with her parents. About CPP. In linguistic analyses of literature, the term mental space is used to describe a construction of how a character conceptualizes the world; the base space is the physical world the characters live in, as well as the knowledge they all share of it. Ciconia no Naku Koro ni (Phase 1) Theorycrafting Part 1 – Hierarchy of the Chivalric Orders (SPOILERS!) And I'm loving all of these characters and their designs (Naima's hijab ). In the virtual built space, the characters can do things such as construct a virtual public bath where they can chat and interact with the virtual environment. Built spaces are also constructed within Ciconia’s characters as well. Unfortunately, one day Miyo's parents died in a car crash, leaving Miyo an orphan. She seems able to control technology like no other character, including 8ms. That's.. a lot of money. plus they want irl lewd fun and not virtual one, so they try to change mankind back to a way that is actually "human" in the literal sense, I haven't found any answers or theories on most of these questions, but i think we're all falling into a trap Ryu set up for the readers. ... where (without getting into spoilers), people chucking half the story out as a red herring as they come up with nonsense fan theories to avoid...spoilery stuff, is absolutely a thing. Twitter seems to have become 07thExpansion’s go-to outlet for releasing information on their upcoming title Ciconia When They Cry, and last weekend saw another long string of tweets from circle leader Ryukishi07 about the upcoming game – including some revelations about the episodic nature of the title, as well as the changing circumstances of the team that … I believe that it's being done for the player's sake - they're probably characters that we would recognize from elsewhere. The first episode was released October 4th, 2019 − 9 whole years after the previous entry and the same day as the events of Umineko: When They Cry epilogue. I'm trying to look for reasons why the three kings would be wearing masks. Rethabile said something along the lines of not believing something that would incriminate Miyao, but in a tone that made it seem she had some evidence against him, and Miyao himself seems completely unaware of doing anything against peace. Miyao confirmed, Naima, Chloe and Rukshana heavily hinted. So it comes to humanity (no player) vs God's representatives (someone beyond humans, witches? The Selcom itself blends the line between the virtual and the physical. (No spoilers please). Ciconia When They Cry is the fifth installment of the popular series from doujin circle 07th Expansion, following up on the popular Higurashi and Umineko games. from 07th Expansion and the 5th entry in the When They Cry (WTC) … Hello everyone. "They" are i think will be the opponents in the meta game. Use this thread to share your thoughts and speculations of the game in the leadup to release! She's in position of giving Toujiro the master keys to Miyao's gauntlet for example, and the VN like starts with her literally spying on another Warcat member and running away, even if she then gives a plausible explanation for it. I do believe that 3 kings, Jestress, Toujiro and Seshat are all for humanity side. I'm going to write here my thoughts on secrets of this Ryukishi's masterpiece, but I won't read yours. Ciconia When They Cry is set after World War 3 long over with.On the heels of nuclear winter, a group known as the Gauntlets are undergoing special training from a young age. But to an external observer, Miyao and Meow would look pretty much the exact same specially if they were flying. All rights reserved. One of the most characteristic features of Ryuukishi07’s writing is his complicated constructions of mental spaces and base space. The fifth installment in the "When They Cry" franchise developed by 07th Expansion. from 07th Expansion and the 5th entry in the When They Cry (WTC) series. Ciconia was supposed to … September 6, 2020 September 6, 2020 limpnah Leave a comment I’m a bit late to the party, but a few weeks ago I read Phase 1 of Ciconia When They Cry, the newest visual novel (or sound novel?) Ciconia When They Cry is a visual novel set after the end of World War III. However, only Miyao speaks with this program, and they seem to exist only in Miyao’s mental space (though it is possible they are a program in Miyao’s Selcom: more on that in another post). The fifth installment in the "When They Cry" franchise developed by 07th Expansion. I was suspecting Gunhild as well, but then I thought of something else. Kizuna was stated to developed by young for young, but i'm not so sure. The Umineko When They Cry anime television series is based on the sound novel series of the same name by the Japanese dōjin soft maker 07th Expansion.Produced by Studio Deen, it is directed by Chiaki Kon, written by Toshifumi Kawase, and features character design by Yoko Kikuchi who based the designs on original creator Ryukishi07's original concept. I had no idea the latest When They Cry is out. This is something we can figure out together. Gen | 21 | he/him | Ciconia When They Cry Discussion [SPOILERS]. Ciconia When They Cry is set after World War 3 long over with.On the heels of nuclear winter, a group known as the Gauntlets are undergoing special training from a young age. You can post Higurashi content without worrying about spoiling things. This one isn't as much a traditional mystery as Umineko, but the first chapter still leaves us with plenty questions to tackle. Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America), Higurashi Gou Ciconia Connection (SPOILER WARNING), Does it End on a solid conclusion ? As for the spies, the AOU plant is very likely Gunhild. They all say they do a lot but do pretty much nothing throught the whole story. I feel like he has to price Ciconia like this because he knows nowadays he only has a much smaller niche following (who will pay whatever price it takes to read the latest When They Cry release). A century has passed after the notorious World War III, humanity is starting to recover, with new technologies being born and more peaceful methods are being made to reduce the chance of another war happening as much as possible. If someone else is controlling Kizuna or Kero it doesn't matter if only few people knew about Cyril. In my opinion, a lot of the things we saw are complete red herrings (IMO the Three Kings are, i think something even greater than them is at play.). ciconia; ciconia no naku koro ni; ciconia when they cry; ciconia spoilers; ciconia theories; gens theories; god this shit is pretentious; but this is how i analyze things and i wanna be on the ground floor of ciconia theorycrafting; so here we are; hope the 3 active fans of ciconia enjoy this post Higurashi: When They Cry - NEW/Gou ep 19 *new series spoilers only* Anime: pokedude899: 8: 2/17 2:23PM: Higurashi: When They Cry - NEW/Gou ep 20 *new series spoilers only* Anime: pokedude899: 12: 2/18 10:10PM: When They Cry - Higurashi, Umineko and Ciconia Topic *SPOILERS* Mega0EXE: 66: 2/21 5:36PM This board won't be showing up on /all/ or the front page. First of all, let me apologise for my bad English and, most importantly, my rudeness. The the overall theme of "parallel processing" that 60% of the gauntlet knights have reminds me of another condition that leaves individuals with a "social" and "anti-social" personality. Coincidentally, they also discover a substance that can induce the terminal L5 symptoms in a healthy person, which Jirou Tomitake later claims was destroyed. The way he takes control of Miyao in the end negates the entire "you're gonna kill her" arc, as Toujirou only hacked Miyao's gauntlet if I understand correctly. Sci-Fi Game of Thrones with When They Cry-style Slice of Life...that's what I'm getting from Ciconia so far. In Umineko, for instance, Beatrice presents solutions to the murders through a magical narrative, constructing a built space where those involved in her narrative experience a magical situation. When They Cry 5: Ciconia no Naku Koro ni ("When the Storks Cry"). This post is really an explanation of where I’m at with my thought processes before I start delving into Ciconia theories proper. From my understanding on one side is a Humanity as a whole, without a single meta player yet. A built space depicts a situation that holds true for those involved in the situation, but may or may not be true in the base space. It is also stated that at least 30% (60% from the other source) top aces have that. When the Storks Cry) is the newest coming entry in 07th Expansion’s When They Cry series, releasing 8 years after Umineko came to an end. Through his constructions of the virtual space and the characters’ mental spaces, Ryuukishi07 may be pointing out that the physical world is also a built space, where truth is constructed based on who is involved in the situation. You can post about Umineko and Ciconia, too, but you should use spoiler options on those for the time being. The program is even accompanied by lines of code in the background, impressing the idea that the program is ripping apart the virtual space to speak with Miyao. Toujirou's "plot" is extremely bad, his scenes are interchangable and contribute nothing to each other. After the death of Koizumi, who was a major political influence on "Tokyo"'s sponsorship, the Alphabet Project abruptly orders the cessation of this research within three years, citing the UN Biological Weapons Treaty. "At the moment, all humanity has managed to do is make their opponent take seat their seat at the game table". Ciconia no Naku Koro ni, aka Ciconia When They Cry, aka When the Storks Cry, is the third (or fifth, depending on how you count it) of the When They Cry games written by Ryukishi07. Welcome to the new When They /cry/ board! I'm going to assume that everyone have it until stated othervise. Ciconia When They Cry, or Ciconia ga Naku Koro ni, to cite its Japanese name, was fully revealed in November 2018 with a first trailer. I'd say you must have finished Umineko before this too. Ciconia no Naku Koro ni (lit. Miyo spent the latter part of her childhood in what she refers to as a "war orphanage" where she was often abused. The Selcom is surgically placed inside the brains of the characters. For that reason i don't think Retha is the assassin or mole. And which spaces can be trusted to be truthful? Those who master the training get to become Gauntlet Knights, which just so happens to be the position of the group that the story follows. Eventuall… But I don't want to get spoiled by people way smarter than me with their superior theories and lose my chance to guess everything on my own later. I guess we can assume at least that person controling them is female. The timing of this move, coming just days after the game’s delay to September, seems to signal a desire on 07thExpansion’s part to tide fans over until the release, as well as to smooth over anxiety … But the characters are not perfect: sometimes, they accidentally say something in the physical space when they meant to speak only in the virtual space. All material belongs to7th expansion-creatorshttps://07th-expansion.net/ Six of the seven living species occur in the Old World, but the maguari stork has a South American range. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Who are they? About the "players". However, just as Beatrice presents herself as a witch in the Meta World to hide her true identity, characters in Ciconia also use the built virtual space to hide the truth of the base space. Because I want to participate in fun and noble tradition of deducing "When they cry" together between first readers, contribute some ideas and maybe even get bragging rights if some of them would be proven right eventually. Its definitely monitored by someone. Both Ciconia When They Cry Episode 1 and Umineko Saku launch on PC in Japan on October 4. Ciconia When They Cry - Phase 1 For You, the Replaceable Ones. The most prominent example is the protagonist, Miyao, whose mental space seems to be compromised by the addition of a second Miyao, who describes themselves as “a program inside of Miyao.” By acting as a program inside of a person’s mind, this “program inside of Miyao” blends the virtual space with the mental space. aka: me setting up the groundwork for the theories imma post here. Ciconia When They Cry - Phase 1 For You, the Replaceable Ones. XD oh and as for the kings, they're just frustrated with how absurd and terrible mankind has become. Ryu didn't leave us in the dark, like the other first chapters in WTC installments. Spoilers up to Chapter 7 of Ciconia Phase 1: For You, the Replaceable Ones. The conversations between Miyao and the program exist in a built space that only these two characters acknowledge, which is very similar to how the other characters treat virtual space. I personally find Koshka's "Pandora's Box" to be really intriguing. Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni. Let's discuss it. There's literally 0 about it, however she refers to Miyao as her brother, so it means she's considered part of this "ciconia-born" family, therefore it's very weird that she doesn't even talk abou her dad that I remember. Ciconia When They Cry Phase 1: For You, the Replaceable Ones is immediately available … This is the first chapter in newest entry When They Cry visual novel series produced by Ryuukishi07. my theory is still, humans can't live in a body anymore on a dead earth, especially not with defect 8MS's , so everyone becomes "data".